Oracle best thing that could happen to JavaFX?

April 20th, 2009 | Published in java, oracle | 14 Comments

Oracle is probably the biggest user of the java applet technology. Oracle Forms runs as an Applet in the browser. Now, Oracle Forms isn’t the hippest tool ever, people have been expecting it to die for a couple of years. But it’s still around. Mainly because Oracle still uses Forms in their Oracle E-Business Suite.

Recently, plugin based user interfaces have become popular again. Mostly based on Flex or Silverlight. Oracle has also created some applications using Flex, but why use an Adobe product if you don’t have to? Sun created JavaFx to compete with Flex and Silverlight. If Oracle rewrites Forms using JavaFX, and replaces the transport protocol with some open standard it will have the hippest and most productive development suite ever. Ready to compete with Flex and Silverlight. All based on a very old and mature technology. Maybe it’s even time to brush up Oracle Designer and sell it as an MDA tool for JavaFX client server 2.0 applications…

http://www.javafxblog.net/ Anatoli Fomenko

I agree – “Long” for JavaFX under Oracle.
http://www.javafxblog.net Anatoli Fomenko

I agree – “Long” for JavaFX under Oracle.
Jan

O yes – d2kwutil all the way

Seriously, let’s hope you’re right that Oracle will use this acquisition as a real lever to innovate, instead of just assimilate. Oracle has a lot to prove in that area as is also reflected in this quite solid analysis:

http://dealarchitect.typepad.com/deal_architect/2009/02/oracle-and-the-lost-art-of-development.html
Jan

O yes – d2kwutil all the way

Seriously, let’s hope you’re right that Oracle will use this acquisition as a real lever to innovate, instead of just assimilate. Oracle has a lot to prove in that area as is also reflected in this quite solid analysis:

http://dealarchitect.typepad.com/deal_architect/2009/02/oracle-and-the-lost-art-of-development.html
http://www.andrejkoelewijn.com/ andrej

Thanks for link, i can see his point. Even if oracle improves/innovates the tooling it has, it’s probably not tooling that we’ll appreciate: the aim of their tooling is to enable 4gl developers to integrate and configure the prepackages software oracle sells.

Oracle doesn’t want you to build your own software, they want you to buy packaged solutions, that you can configure and integrate.
http://www.andrejkoelewijn.com/ akoelewijn

Thanks for link, i can see his point. Even if oracle improves/innovates the tooling it has, it’s probably not tooling that we’ll appreciate: the aim of their tooling is to enable 4gl developers to integrate and configure the prepackages software oracle sells.

Oracle doesn’t want you to build your own software, they want you to buy packaged solutions, that you can configure and integrate.
http://twitter.com/rnocera rnocera

I think it would be ADF + Flex – RT @tweetmeme Oracle best thing that could happen to JavaFX? :: Andrej Koelewijn http://bit.ly/SXorT
This comment was originally posted on Twitter
http://svgopen.org/ stelt

/me prefers SVG
the SVG world conference is actually near ‘the’ Oracle office, in the same Silicon Valley, at Google
http://svgopen.org stelt

/me prefers SVG
the SVG world conference is actually near ‘the’ Oracle office, in the same Silicon Valley, at Google
German

Oracle Forms already have a replacement through JDeveloper ADF Framework, I don’t think JavaFx will survive under Oracle’s umbrella specially when they already have a lot of products supported by the ADF Faces Rich Client which it is AJAX based.
German

Oracle Forms already have a replacement through JDeveloper ADF Framework, I don’t think JavaFx will survive under Oracle’s umbrella specially when they already have a lot of products supported by the ADF Faces Rich Client which it is AJAX based.
lzap

The point in the post above is there is no replacement needed. ADF replacement is a very expensive thing for most enterprises and with JavaFX there is no need for replacement.

But the truth is — JavaFX is just an applet coded in other JavaTM language.
lzap

The point in the post above is there is no replacement needed. ADF replacement is a very expensive thing for most enterprises and with JavaFX there is no need for replacement.

But the truth is — JavaFX is just an applet coded in other JavaTM language.
Rmfume

Please, oh please, Oracle, do just that!

Andrej Koelewijn

Oracle best thing that could happen to JavaFX?

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